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on the first point, boehner has a tough time corralling some of the republican votes to vote for obama's plan. if the president brings the 250 plan to the house floor and it gets through the senate, wow won't see many republicans go after it, but at the same time, boehner is pretty safe when it comes to the speakership. you had guys like tom price or eric canter or other guys if they were making noise against him, there would be huge noise that he is in trouble, be but i don't hear that. i'm on capitol hill everyday and i don't hear that and i believe he is safe because there is not a challenger. >> if boehner is safe in the job, that does not mean to say he is at all relevant here, because they are negotiating past him right now and he is not a factor, is that right? >> yes, it is right, and that is partly because boehner proved na he could not get it through the house, and now the ball is in mitch mcconnell's corner, andi i can only imagine how upset mitch mcconnell is with boehner, with his inability to get republican support. and all for the eye when he is up for reelection in 2014.
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the dare that obama put out yesterday to the republicans. >> up or down. >> yes. and if you have time i can explain why people may think that is the routine in washington, and it's not. >> take your time. take the time to explain it for us. >> okay. i'd like to do that for everyone out there. you may have learned in school that bills introduced and it goes through regular order and it gets a vote. that's just not how it's done here and there are all kind of rules actually designed to let the party in power have the ability to call what goes on before it. a reason that this is going to start in the senate tomorrow is that the democrats control the senate. so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibus
the dare that obama put out yesterday to the republicans. >> up or down. >> yes. and if you have time i can explain why people may think that is the routine in washington, and it's not. >> take your time. take the time to explain it for us. >> okay. i'd like to do that for everyone out there. you may have learned in school that bills introduced and it goes through regular order and it gets a vote. that's just not how it's done here and there are all kind of rules...
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president obama out right now. everybody's always known two things about the cliff. you're almost certainly going to get more taxes in a deal after you go over than in a deal before you go over it. that's because after you go over the cliff, taxes already go up for everybody. so anything you do, any reasonable deal congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debac
president obama out right now. everybody's always known two things about the cliff. you're almost certainly going to get more taxes in a deal after you go over than in a deal before you go over it. that's because after you go over the cliff, taxes already go up for everybody. so anything you do, any reasonable deal congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's...
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he is the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. >> president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planets. my promise is to help you and your family. >> when you pick up that ballot to vote, you will face the clearest choice of any time in a generation. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> and whether i earned your vote or not, i have listened to you. i have learned from you. and you've made me a better president. >> when a president is seeking a second term voters have clear options, stay the course or throw the bum out. so what 2012, karen in the end, was it a referendum or a choice? that's the question that we kept having. >> it was the exact question we kept asking a year ago. given the state of the economy, given how most people felt whether the country was on the right track, it should have been a referendum on barack obama's perf
he is the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. >> president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planets. my promise is to help you and your family. >> when you pick up that ballot to vote, you will face the clearest choice of any time in a generation. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him. >>...
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afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how im
afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i...
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obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its current rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swallow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. this is flo. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're always there for me. shh! i'll get you a rental car. i could also use an umbrella. fall in love with progressive's claims service. >>> welcome back to "hardball." what will a deal look like, if there is one, and who's going to wind up giving up more on the tax cuts for wealthy americans. harry reid says $250,000 is a threshold, but that may not hold. joining me now, josh green. josh, for the markets, for the business community, whether it's 250,000, i know it's a big deal for politicians, but 250, 400, 500,000, is there any real difference? >> absolutely none. the business community
obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its current rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swallow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. this is flo. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you....
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president obama as strongly as possible. the incentive for the party as a whole is, you know, look, the legislative landscape is tilted very strongly against republicans right now. taxes are going to go up in some sense no matter what. for the long term future of the party, it's probably better to sort of retreat and find new ground to fight on. you have those sort of dueling imperatives at work. >> ross and cornell, thank you both, and we'll see what happens on monday. >>> more breaking news coming up. a rare case of lawmakers over on the senate side actually getting something done. something that the hard-hit survivors of hurricane sandy are counting on. >>> also, we'll tell you about people who got the job of going after unethical lawmakers and bipartisan efforts by lawmakers to eliminate those watch dogs, keeping them honest. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your wors
president obama as strongly as possible. the incentive for the party as a whole is, you know, look, the legislative landscape is tilted very strongly against republicans right now. taxes are going to go up in some sense no matter what. for the long term future of the party, it's probably better to sort of retreat and find new ground to fight on. you have those sort of dueling imperatives at work. >> ross and cornell, thank you both, and we'll see what happens on monday. >>> more...
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why is it that republicans are so bitterly opposed to president obama? is it his race? is it his youth? is it his party? what is it that has aroused such deep and bitter suspicion and resistance to this man? >> well, i think it's some of all of the above. it's also that president obama came into office at a time when we desperately needed government, an active government. remember, the economy was going off a cliff. a real cliff. and not a symbolic fiscal cliff. i mean, but it was a real economic cliff, over which we had no control at all. he took the reins and prevented another great depression. we had a very, very deep recession and we are still in the gravitational pull of that deep recession, but a lot of conservative republicans, many of whom had been elected in 2010, they looked at what president obama had done with regard to the stimulus package, and everything else, and they said, this is simply too much government. we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an
why is it that republicans are so bitterly opposed to president obama? is it his race? is it his youth? is it his party? what is it that has aroused such deep and bitter suspicion and resistance to this man? >> well, i think it's some of all of the above. it's also that president obama came into office at a time when we desperately needed government, an active government. remember, the economy was going off a cliff. a real cliff. and not a symbolic fiscal cliff. i mean, but it was a real...
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obama's for 250,000. republicans are for something higher. but i do think there's a lot of prospects for a deal. but it will be like getting close to the deadline on new year's believe. >> that sound about right. susan, though, no matter what happens here, no matter what deal comes out republicans are going to be able to help but come out looking bad at the end of this, are they not? >> i think everyone will stumble off the fiscal cliff if you will. we're going to have a patch. and yes, the republicans right now are not looking as good as they would hope to especially after the election. >> that's putting it lightly. >> it's a nice saturday afternoon. there's no reason -- but fact is that they do have one more card to hold. and that's the debt ceiling debate. and that's something where they could really be strong on spending cuts. if they have to give in and come up with this patch, everyone is going want this debt ceiling done before the president's state-of-the-union or hopefully before his inaugural speech. so the president's looking long
obama's for 250,000. republicans are for something higher. but i do think there's a lot of prospects for a deal. but it will be like getting close to the deadline on new year's believe. >> that sound about right. susan, though, no matter what happens here, no matter what deal comes out republicans are going to be able to help but come out looking bad at the end of this, are they not? >> i think everyone will stumble off the fiscal cliff if you will. we're going to have a patch. and...
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obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its kurnt rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swal slow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and bec
obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its kurnt rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swal slow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf...
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president obama is expected to sign it. if you are a civil liberties guy, there was good news and bad news in this debate. the good news is that there were a bunch of privacy amendments, including one from democratic senator ron wyden of oregon. his amendment would have required the head of the country's spy agencies to tell congress when americans accidentally got spied on. right now, we have no way of knowing how often that happens. also, republican senator rand paul of kentucky, he wanted to force the government to get a warrant to read our e-mails and other electronic communications. for privacy advocates, these amends were the good news. the bad news, the democratic-controlled senate killed every single one of those amendments. killed them dead. they voted them all down. and today the once-controversial warrantless wiretapping bill was extended for another five years, and amazingly, almost nobody seems to have noticed. we used to fight about this tough. the whole reason fisa needs congressional reauthorization every fe
president obama is expected to sign it. if you are a civil liberties guy, there was good news and bad news in this debate. the good news is that there were a bunch of privacy amendments, including one from democratic senator ron wyden of oregon. his amendment would have required the head of the country's spy agencies to tell congress when americans accidentally got spied on. right now, we have no way of knowing how often that happens. also, republican senator rand paul of kentucky, he wanted to...
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. >> you cannot win as a republican if you don't win ohio. >> none of this is making any sense. it's want right. i think it is going to go to obama. >> obam is going to get 299 votes and obammal win. >> but it's not always serious, as you regular fans of the show know, so we have had a lot of fun, too. watch this. >> we hit the budweiser tent, no beer, though. >> you know me, mamma loves some fried chicken. i came to the motherland of all chicken. it is de-licious. >> how is boca raton -- i have always wanted to visit mexico -- is it nice? >> beautiful, greg. in florida, not mexico. >> big bird. take her. >> dorothy -- maker. >> communist! >> caller: oh, yeah. okay. >> 45 million people -- unemployed i. 45 million. >> greg, you can't eat him -- >> please, he's a good boy. >> no shaking. >> he's six weeks old. he's cute, though, right? >> i have another bad phrase of the day. comfortable in my own skin. >> when are you going to ban the phrase gratuitous. >> as in the photos i have of you? >> yeah, right. >> the president has a big steak. >> i don't want see what is so funny. >> m
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to do a deal with obama. the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlemen
to do a deal with obama. the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a...
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president obama has shown no leadership on this. what they really need to do is minimize the damage from what president obama is trying to push for the higher tax cuts because they're going to need public opinion on their side in the new year to really make entitlement reform because at the end of the day, we're ohm talk being tax. we know $16 trillion in debt. the real problem right now is entitlement spending because at 62 to 65% of the federal budget. we've got this problem ballooning by the hour w. got to do something about it. right now i think house republicans are going to have to take it on the chin and get the deal because we need public opinion on our side. >> heather: alexis, will they get it done? >> i hope so. i think the lack of leadership has been on the house side. speaker boehner couldn't even get his own bill passed. so he's been fumbling the ball. i think what the president is doing with the up or down vote is trying to bring oversight to the american people in the spirit of the holidays, he's trying to let the am
president obama has shown no leadership on this. what they really need to do is minimize the damage from what president obama is trying to push for the higher tax cuts because they're going to need public opinion on their side in the new year to really make entitlement reform because at the end of the day, we're ohm talk being tax. we know $16 trillion in debt. the real problem right now is entitlement spending because at 62 to 65% of the federal budget. we've got this problem ballooning by the...
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but they basically believe their job is first to obstruct barack obama and once there is a republican president in place to pass this initiatives that create better business climate. more and more deregulation committee funding of programs that have never quite been near and dear to them. i think they do believe -- of course to fast-forward a bit about the debt ceiling fiasco of 2011, but after the summer we were taken to the brink of a fiscal cliff, one we are about to see it it can come in to thinking part of the house republican leadership was maybe her tea party freshman will go home, get yelled at by constituents and they'll realize this compromise is not such a bad thing. the opposite occurred. he went home and people go to town halls tend to be the activists of their party and those people tend to be tea party and everyone screaming, why did you accept a deal? you said you would not under any circumstances read the debt ceiling. at best it's been mixed messages and the great likelihood it will be a while before we see moderation. >> is this further look at the freshman from his
but they basically believe their job is first to obstruct barack obama and once there is a republican president in place to pass this initiatives that create better business climate. more and more deregulation committee funding of programs that have never quite been near and dear to them. i think they do believe -- of course to fast-forward a bit about the debt ceiling fiasco of 2011, but after the summer we were taken to the brink of a fiscal cliff, one we are about to see it it can come in to...
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and president obama trying to light a fire under congressional lawmakers, urging them to come up with a deal after friday's bipartisan white house summit. >> we're now at the last minute. and the the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> kelly: so the question becomes, why can't washington seem to work this out? why has it taken so long when they knew they had this fiscal cliff coming to them? joining me now for a fair and balanced debate on the topic, angela mcglowan is with us, and mark hanna, a strategist and former aide to the john kerry and barack obama campaigns. thank you for joining us, look, here we are right now on friday, we heard the president following his meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. president obama told reporters that he was modestly optimistic that a deal could be reached. he's counting on the sen if we l cliff because john boehner, the speaker of the house of representatives wasn't able to get the republicans to get the republicans to support a plan b. >> here is the rub,
and president obama trying to light a fire under congressional lawmakers, urging them to come up with a deal after friday's bipartisan white house summit. >> we're now at the last minute. and the the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> kelly: so the question becomes, why can't washington seem to work this out? why has it taken so long when they knew they had this fiscal cliff coming to them? joining me now for...
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the point president obama is trying to make is he wants everybody to vote one way or the other, up or down. the idea is republicans will be forced to vote one way or the other on extending the push tax cuts for people making below $250,000 a year. >> yeah. ? and by definition making taxes go up on those earning above that. would republicans be forced to vote for the president's plan to avoid being blamed for rates rising on most taxpayers and going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, a couple thing, ali. first of all, i think the outlines of that deal you just described are probably where they're headed, although i don't think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid -- i hear they're negotiating maybe a little higher income threshold, so maybe not $250,000, maybe $400,000 or $500,000. even the president put that on the table a couple weeks ago. i was pleased to hear jessica said she think wes ear inching towards an agreement. i don't want to go over this cliff. i think it would be a mistake politically and economically to do that. but i want to let your viewers know that this is not a fight a
the point president obama is trying to make is he wants everybody to vote one way or the other, up or down. the idea is republicans will be forced to vote one way or the other on extending the push tax cuts for people making below $250,000 a year. >> yeah. ? and by definition making taxes go up on those earning above that. would republicans be forced to vote for the president's plan to avoid being blamed for rates rising on most taxpayers and going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, a...
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real. >> scott brown has a 58% favorability rating, it's likely he's the republican nominee and very like live he goes back to the senate. all's fair in love and war. they're going to be colleagues in the senate. if that's true, they'll get over it. >> when she loses, play that tape of pacquiao getting knocked down, say that's scott brown. >> margaret's right, scott brown's still popular in massachusetts. >> but he lost. >> despite that he's a republican. >> number four rivalry, paul ryan versus marco rubio, the republican party already making jokes about 2016. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> one of the fundamental challenges before us is to find an appropriate and sustainable role for government. and closing that gap between the dreams of millions of americans and the opportunities for them to realize them. >> now, that was the jack kemp dinner, they were joking about seeing each other at diners in iowa. both making conscious plays to have the gop reach out to the middle c
real. >> scott brown has a 58% favorability rating, it's likely he's the republican nominee and very like live he goes back to the senate. all's fair in love and war. they're going to be colleagues in the senate. if that's true, they'll get over it. >> when she loses, play that tape of pacquiao getting knocked down, say that's scott brown. >> margaret's right, scott brown's still popular in massachusetts. >> but he lost. >> despite that he's a republican. >>...
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obviously they didn't go to the cameras after the this meeting here with president obama. that would not be good signs. >> whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. not people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. >> this is a total derelectino due of duty at every level. >> try and get at least a small package, at least a small deal together before the new year. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? >> greta: senator bob corker joins us. you said it is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> we still haven't even behe gun to deal with the issues causing the fiscal insolvent say we are facing and that is the entitlements. nothing has been discussed. it is not on o the table. we are not going to deal with it this year. it will be the issue we deal with running into the debt ceiling around mid march to the economy will continue to have a pail over it because we have not dealt with the issue that our nation needs to face up to right now. >> greta: shouldn't the american people b
obviously they didn't go to the cameras after the this meeting here with president obama. that would not be good signs. >> whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. not people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. >> this is a total derelectino due of duty at every level. >> try and get at least a small package, at least a small deal together before the new year. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you...
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>> oh, absolutely, particularly if republicans feel they got rolled on this. the debt ceiling is the big leverage they hold on this entire debate. we've heard president obama say he's not going to play the same game he played in 2011 saying they got taken as hostages in a situation and debate that ends up hurting the u.s. economy. president obama says he doesn't want to do that again and it will be interesting to see how he maneuvers because congress will end upholding a vote and saying that congress no longer has the power on raising the debt limit. that remains to be seen and it will be interesting to see what president obama says when he's asked a question like that. >> mark, we'll come back to you later. joining me also from d.c., david nabbing murrah of "the washington post. this won't be confusing at all. >> no way. >> david nakamura, we'll start with you. a lot of talk about progress in the last 24 hours. as an example, let me quote "the new york times." i have a positive feeling now. this is senator kay bailey hutchison, republican of texas who said a
>> oh, absolutely, particularly if republicans feel they got rolled on this. the debt ceiling is the big leverage they hold on this entire debate. we've heard president obama say he's not going to play the same game he played in 2011 saying they got taken as hostages in a situation and debate that ends up hurting the u.s. economy. president obama says he doesn't want to do that again and it will be interesting to see how he maneuvers because congress will end upholding a vote and saying...
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in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several participants were seen leaving. >> and back at the capital the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid and republican m
in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday....
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we have obama care. everybody is about to explode and all you want to talk about is taxion small businesses. you don't want to talk about cutting spending. >> where are the $2 trillion in republican cuts? where are they? they don't want to talk about it either. >> sean: tax reform. they want hang only. tax reform. medicare reform and save social security. >> sean. >> sean: all the things have been discussed and proposed by paul ryan and his budget. >> the whole reason this happened is the fiscal cliff that we are facing the fiscal cliff was supposedly because what the two sides couldn't agree to in 2011 they would make it so horrible that they would have to do something. now, they can't do anything big. we are not even sure tonight whether it would be something small to get through the fiscal cliff. >> sean: i think the president ought to fly to hawaii to play rounds 108, 109, 110. bill cunningham is a scratch golfer. i don't think he has played that many rounds in a year, have you? >> sean hannity we ha
we have obama care. everybody is about to explode and all you want to talk about is taxion small businesses. you don't want to talk about cutting spending. >> where are the $2 trillion in republican cuts? where are they? they don't want to talk about it either. >> sean: tax reform. they want hang only. tax reform. medicare reform and save social security. >> sean. >> sean: all the things have been discussed and proposed by paul ryan and his budget. >> the whole...
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president obama has been hit by republicans who gave george w. bush a pass for the fundraising debt. and whereas democrats gave george w. bush with his record number of fundraisers were not seen badly when bill clinton and barack obama were each holding their fundraiser. it's a multi-president story. there's a section in the book where i talk about how this really has risen over time and the media coverage of it. it's now to look at president obama's re-election fundraising numbers and look at them as dwarfing his predecessor which they do, but starting with the first president bush, there's media story after media story about president bush launching into unprecedented fundraising. then the second president bush and barack obama. this played out over time. host: under fundraisers jointly benefiting re-election campaigns for the d.n.c. and the r.n.c., the first three presidents, carter, reagan, and george. with. bush, no recents -- with george h.w. bush had 22 and then i think the 220 is left over from the first column. do you know how much joint
president obama has been hit by republicans who gave george w. bush a pass for the fundraising debt. and whereas democrats gave george w. bush with his record number of fundraisers were not seen badly when bill clinton and barack obama were each holding their fundraiser. it's a multi-president story. there's a section in the book where i talk about how this really has risen over time and the media coverage of it. it's now to look at president obama's re-election fundraising numbers and look at...
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they basically believe their job is to obstruct barack obama and once there is a republican president in place from the two pass this initiative secreted better business climate, more and more deregulation committee funding of programs that have never quite been near and dear to them. of course to flash forward a day, i suspect we'll talk about the debt ceiling fiasco of 2011. after that summer undertaken to the brink of a fiscal cliff, the thinking on the house republican leader ship is maybe a tea party freshmen will go homehome, get yelled at by constituents and realize maybe compromise is not such a bad thing. they went home and the people who put at town halls tend to be that this is their party and those people tend to be tea party and they said why did video? you said you would not under any circumstances raise the debt ceiling. at best there's mixed messages and a great likelihood it will be a while before we see moderation. >> is this for the leadership looks at the freshman, many of them second term members of congress and think if only we could control them. isn't the case
they basically believe their job is to obstruct barack obama and once there is a republican president in place from the two pass this initiative secreted better business climate, more and more deregulation committee funding of programs that have never quite been near and dear to them. of course to flash forward a day, i suspect we'll talk about the debt ceiling fiasco of 2011. after that summer undertaken to the brink of a fiscal cliff, the thinking on the house republican leader ship is maybe...
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the republican party is tilted right and i think if romney beats obama then it will be because he won a lot of dependent -- independent voters who move from party to party and election to election. the tea party movement is not here to stay but it at least entered the bloodstream. despite the voting behavior of congress. you see for example the ryan budget and both in 2011 in 2012 when it came up for a boat, all of these republicans who previously voted against it, now vote for it. if they failed them before they will be primary by someone who gets to the right and in fact one of people i read about in the book is a moderate republican named emerson from missouri. she voted against a couple of things and the voting behavior was not right-wing. so that sort of behavior strikes fears in the hearts of a lot of legislators. >> infective governor romney loses the response from the tea party will be i told you so. [inaudible] >> do you see the same level of gridlock and what do you see coming down the line? >> bias in the idea that there are a lot of unfilled vacancies and how this new cong
the republican party is tilted right and i think if romney beats obama then it will be because he won a lot of dependent -- independent voters who move from party to party and election to election. the tea party movement is not here to stay but it at least entered the bloodstream. despite the voting behavior of congress. you see for example the ryan budget and both in 2011 in 2012 when it came up for a boat, all of these republicans who previously voted against it, now vote for it. if they...
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president obama is pressing a basic proposal previously rejected by republicans. >> gregg: and in moscow, at least four people are dead, four more seriously injured after a passenger plane crashed while landing at one of russia's busiest airports. >> arthel: the u.n. envoy for syria somebodying a dire warning today in a meeting with russia's foreign minister saying the country's civil war could plunge the entire region into chaos unless something is done to solve the refugee crisis. >>> fox extreme weather alert. the northeast[5uzi facing yet ar powerful snow storm in less than a week. look at those picturing, adding up to a heap of trouble for holiday travelers on the roads and at the airports. the storm has already hit the ohio valley and now it is cranking up wind and snow as it moves to the northeast. meg baker of wtxf is live in north town, pen opinion -- pen opinion. it looks dark behind you. i'm trying to see how bad it is. >> it's been a winter wonderland for parts of greater philadelphia area. we're in north town where we see about three inches of snow tonight. earlier this amp
president obama is pressing a basic proposal previously rejected by republicans. >> gregg: and in moscow, at least four people are dead, four more seriously injured after a passenger plane crashed while landing at one of russia's busiest airports. >> arthel: the u.n. envoy for syria somebodying a dire warning today in a meeting with russia's foreign minister saying the country's civil war could plunge the entire region into chaos unless something is done to solve the refugee crisis....
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today president obama and republican senator roy blunt of missouri delivered their weekly addresses on the so far icalled fiscal cliff. >> hi, everybody feare. it is a balanced plan, one that would protect the middle class, cut spending in a responsible way, and ask the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. i will keep working with anybody who is serious about getting a comprehensive plan like this done. it is the right thing to do for our economic growth. but we are now at the point where in a couple of days, the losses of every american's paycheck will get a lot smaller. -- the law assays that every american's paycheck will get a little smaller. but congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now. we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. but if an agreement is not reached on time, then i will urge the senate to hold an upward bound to vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress. such a proposa
today president obama and republican senator roy blunt of missouri delivered their weekly addresses on the so far icalled fiscal cliff. >> hi, everybody feare. it is a balanced plan, one that would protect the middle class, cut spending in a responsible way, and ask the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. i will keep working with anybody who is serious about getting a comprehensive plan like this done. it is the right thing to do for our economic growth. but we are now at the point...
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however president obama is the commander in chief, so he will undoubtedly get some of the blame as well. there's a lot of pressure for them to get something done over the next two and a half days. we have already seen the markets impacted, consumer confidence has been down and when you talk to folks, craig, they say, they are frustrated and they are worried about what this will mean for their paychecks. >> kristin welker, thank you. >>> negotiations on the hill ultimately coming down to a few key individuals and their staffers. for more on that, i want to bring in the senior political editor, mark murray. thank you for sticking around. >> thanks for having me. >> over the past month, president obama has been spending a lion's share of his time negotiating with speaker boehner, that did not work. what can you tell us about the key individuals involved in the process now, president obama, senator majority leader harry reed and mitch mcconnell. what is the tone? >> it's all about the senate right now, that is one of the more remarkable developments. all along we thought it would be between
however president obama is the commander in chief, so he will undoubtedly get some of the blame as well. there's a lot of pressure for them to get something done over the next two and a half days. we have already seen the markets impacted, consumer confidence has been down and when you talk to folks, craig, they say, they are frustrated and they are worried about what this will mean for their paychecks. >> kristin welker, thank you. >>> negotiations on the hill ultimately coming...
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over the fiscal cliff have many tea party republicans like wisconsin senator ron johnson fuming. does speaker boehner speak for you? >> i don't know what he's doing behind closed doors, truthfully. nobody speaks for me other than myself. >> reporter: he told cnn he won't filibuster a compromise that raises some taxes. >> we have to understand reality at some point in time. republicans have no power in this negotiation. if the -- there's only one person that can prevent taxes from being increased to the american public, the president. without any action, without him being willing to sign a bill, taxes go up for every american. i don't want to see that happen. >> reporter: some conservatives who once had the power to say "my way or the highway" realize the train has already left the station. some of these tea party republicans caution their new spirit of compromise largely depends on what the president proposes. and a few of them remain convinced the president simply wants to take the country over the fiscal cliff to gain the kind of leverage they used to have. jim acosta, cnn, was
over the fiscal cliff have many tea party republicans like wisconsin senator ron johnson fuming. does speaker boehner speak for you? >> i don't know what he's doing behind closed doors, truthfully. nobody speaks for me other than myself. >> reporter: he told cnn he won't filibuster a compromise that raises some taxes. >> we have to understand reality at some point in time. republicans have no power in this negotiation. if the -- there's only one person that can prevent taxes...
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people of our state. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie's full-on embrace of president obama for helping sandy-ravaged new jersey came days before the election and had no noticeable effect on the presidential race, but some republicans think christie didn't have to be that efuse sieve. they'll remember if his name pops up in 2016. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> reporter: from the say what category of entries comes a combo team, missouri senate candidate todd akin and richard murdoch of indiana. >> life is that gift from god, and i think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god intended to happen. >> republican dreams to take control of the senate in 2012 had dwipdalled throughout the year, but akin and maur dock pretty much shut that door in a couple of sentences. two words from mitt romney during the primary reverberated all the way through to november. the wish issue was his plan to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers. >> people who come here illega
people of our state. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie's full-on embrace of president obama for helping sandy-ravaged new jersey came days before the election and had no noticeable effect on the presidential race, but some republicans think christie didn't have to be that efuse sieve. they'll remember if his name pops up in 2016. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> reporter: from the say what category of...
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votes to convince the house to act and even president obama who had been concerned that they were not going to act and challenging them for an up and down vote said he was optimistic. here's the president after that meeting. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to prevent reimbursements from declining and also have a milk fix, michelle that would prevent the doubling of milk prices which would occur without an extension of subsidies.
votes to convince the house to act and even president obama who had been concerned that they were not going to act and challenging them for an up and down vote said he was optimistic. here's the president after that meeting. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now...
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white house. >> stephen dennis, thank you so much for your time. >> absolutely. >> here are president obama's remarks from the white house earlier today. afterwards, we will hear from senators reid and mcconnell from the senate floor. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> good afternoon, everybody. for the past couple of months, i have been working with leaders of both parties to try to forge an agreement that would grow our economy and shrink the deficit, a balanced plan that would cut spending in a responsible way but also ask wealthy americans to pay more and protect our middle-class and everyone striving to get into the middle class. i want to get this done. it is the right thing to do for our families, businesses, and our economy, but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. we are at the point where in four days every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every americans' paychecks will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do for our economy, it would be bad for mid
white house. >> stephen dennis, thank you so much for your time. >> absolutely. >> here are president obama's remarks from the white house earlier today. afterwards, we will hear from senators reid and mcconnell from the senate floor. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> good afternoon, everybody. for the past couple of months, i have been working with leaders of both parties to try to forge...